Iron experiment: which CPU is desired for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070/1080

The market fastest gaming graphics card is now a GeForce GTX 1080 (related: part one and part two). The transition to the new process significantly raised the level of performance. Namely subfragment Pascal in some games is 70-80% faster than GeForce GTX 980, as well as for 15-20% faster than the GeForce GTX 980 Ti. Is the “eightieth thousand” not cheap, but everything is relative. The same GeForce GTX 980 at the start of sales (almost two years ago) were evaluated most NVIDIA 550 USD. Now for the GeForce GTX 1080 asking $ 600.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition

Junior subfragment — GeForce GTX 1070 (review) attracts much stronger. All because of the price tag. The bottom bracket to the second power “Pascal”, let me remind you, is $ 380. The graphics card is comparable in performance with the GeForce GTX 980 Ti and replaced the GeForce GTX 970, which “brings” 70-80% depending on game and clock rates.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition

Below are the full specifications of new products. If anyone missed the links to the reviews provided. GeForce GTX 970 is the most popular video game, according to Steam stats. Given the fact that the GeForce GTX 1070 came in its place, but it has noticeably better performance, the question of what the CPU needs this 3D accelerator, a very urgent one.

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

The name of the chip

GP104

GP104

Process technology

16 nm

16 nm

The number of transistors

7.2 billion

7.2 billion

The number of GPC

4

3

The number of SM/CU

20

15

The number of stream processors

2560

1920

The number of texture units

160

120

The number of ROP

64

64

The second level cache

2048 KB

2048 KB

Core frequency

1607 (1733) MHz

1506 (1683) MHz

Memory

GDDR5X

GDDR5

Memory

8 GB

8 GB

Memory interface

256-bit

256-bit

Memory frequency

2500 (10 000) MHz

2002 (8008) MHz

Memory bandwidth

320 GB/s

256 GB/s

TDP

180 W

150 W

Food

8 pin

8 pin

Interfaces

1x DVI

3x DisplayPort

1x HDMI

1x DVI

3x DisplayPort

1x HDMI

The price for the Founders Edition

From 55 000 rubles.

From 35 000 rubles.

Buy

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The problem

With processorspecially I encountered when testing both cards. For example, in the Need For Speed in Full HD resolution at the maximum quality graphics and GeForce GTX 1080 and GeForce GTX 1070, and the GeForce GTX 980 Ti has demonstrated approximately the same results, although the overall balance of power between the NVIDIA accelerators we know of. But the stand was used by a Quad-core chip Core i7-4790K overclocked to 4.5 GHz. Cost to increase the resolution up to WQHD, as everything fell into place: the younger Pascal was slower than the older model by 20%. This is partly why I wrote that the GeForce GTX 1080 overkill for Full HD. And it needs a very fast processor.

Процессорозависимость в Need For Speed
Processorswith in Need For Speed

How else is manifested processorswith? This topic on our website dedicated to a detailed, thorough article. Among all the parameters are CPU the most important games are the number of cores/threads and clock speed. Particular is, but if we are talking about decisions AMD and Intel the past three years (Skylake, Broadwell, Haswell), in charge of these characteristics. Unfortunately, as I said, CPU’s are progressing very slowly. And mostly extensive.

Frequency decides! And core. And architecture

Don’t ignore the sophisticated family of Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge. These chips will fight in 2016! However, architectural differences and their effect. For example, in the third “the Witcher” with the same graphics card and is identical to the frequency of the Core i5 Skylake is faster by 13% Core i5 Sandy Bridge. Fortunately, this difference is quite simple to reverse the acceleration. In GTA V the difference between Skylake and Sandy Bridge even more.

Sandy Bridge Vs Skylake
Sandy Bridge Vs Skylake

An obvious example of processorepiemonte involving 1070 GeForce GTX and GeForce GTX 1080. Take these graphics, and then put them back into the system, not the weakest Core i5 chip. Even at 4 GHz the graphics card in the third “the Witcher”, Novigrad, showing similar results with the maximum quality graphics. Sometimes the youngest graphics card is faster, but there’s a logical explanation. A reasonable question arises: why pay 20 000, if you can not see the difference?

Intel Core i5 @4 GHz, “the Witcher 3: wild hunt Full HD, FPS

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

93,4

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

93

Another informative example. Take the GeForce GTX 1080 and will test it in GTA V in permission Full HD and WQHD with the same (maximum) graphics settings, using the stand Core i5, operating at a frequency of 3 GHz. As you can see, reducing the resolution almost has not yielded any results. Therefore, the performance of the system in this game is limited by CPU.

Intel Core i5 @3GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, GTA V, FPS

Full HD

64,6

WQHD

61,7

In General, the problem with processorspecially new NVIDIA relevant, so let’s dig into this question.

Testing

Test stand:

  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K @4.5 GHz
  • CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15
  • Motherboard: MSI Z97 MPOWER
  • Storage: SSD Patriot Blast 480 GB
  • RAM: DDR3-2133 2x 8 GB
  • Power supply: Corsair HX850i, 850W
  • Operating system: Windows 10 x64
  • Drivers: NVIDIA — 368.19.

For my experiment, I used several test benches. Core — Core i7-4790K on Board. With the appropriate BIOS settings to turn a Core i7 into a virtual Core i5 and Core i3 is not difficult. Yes, I’m aware that the Intel processors of different families different amounts of cache in the third level. However, practice shows that it is not so critical, so such assumption, sorry for the tautology, is allowed. The chip frequency was varied in the range from 3 GHz to 5 GHz in increments of 500 MHz. Used scalped Core i7-4790K.

The hardest part of the experiment is to determine the list of games. Unfortunately, time was short, so to test the GeForce GTX and GeForce GTX 1070 1080 with lots of software failed. In principle, it is possible to find such games in which the potential of the flagships of NVIDIA will reveal even on a dual-core Pentium/Celeron. On the other hand, for each game you can set these settings, which is much less powerful video card you hit it on the CPU. So I took five very processorsamsung games, put in their maximum graphics quality settings and graphics cards tested not only in Full HD, but UHD. I believe that in such conditions 1070 GeForce GTX and GeForce GTX 1080 will be used. If we play our potential adapters in them, reveal it and in 99% of other games.

In tables and graphs are the minimum and average FPS. One thing: for the GeForce GTX 1080 in GTA V and Far Cry 4 were used 4x MSAA, the GeForce GTX 1070 — 2-fold. So it will be clearer. Screenshots with all the settings located in the same gallery.

The game

Settings

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

Beyond quality, antialiasing, HBAO+, NVIDIA HairWorks off.

GTA V

The highest degree of quality, FXAA + 4x MSAA (GTX 1070 — 2x), 16x AF, tessellation “very high,” long shadows on shadow high resolution on loading more detailed textures on.

Far Cry 4

Maximum quality, 4x MSAA (GTX 1070 — 2x), HBAO+, crepuscular rays off, fur off.

DOOM

Ultra, TSAA, 16x AF.

Fallout 4

Ultra, TAA, 16x AF, HBAO+, fragments from shots off, maximum range.

Processorswith GTX 1070

Let’s start with the GeForce GTX 1070. There is no purpose to squeeze all the juice out of the graphics card, so I assume a small difference in the number of frames per second in the transition from one CPU frequency to another. For example, the minimum FPS in the third “the Witcher”, with four cores at 3.5 GHz is equal to 74. And on the same frequency, but using eight threads — 78 FPS. The difference is, but it is critical to the comfort of gaming is not affected.

GTA V is probably the most protsessorostroeniya game today! She seemed to hint that “full of happiness” along with GeForce GTX 1070 need a “stone”, running at a speed of 4.5 GHz. To turn on vertical sync and see stable 60 fps, for example. However, with processors Core i5/i7 at a lower frequency is also quite playable.

GeForce GTX 1070 need a Intel Quad at 3.5-4 GHz

Stating a fact: to reveal the full potential of the GeForce GTX 1070 in Full HD resolution is to use a Quad running at 4 GHz. Intel has chips that run at those speeds right out of the box is a Core i7-4790K and Core i7-6700K. Everything else is overclocking. But the key word here is “perfect”. In most cases, enough for four cores at 3.5 GHz (minimum FPS is close to or above 60). We take this frequency as a basis. Taking into account the architectural lag processors Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge will require a higher speed: from 4 GHz and higher. About the AMD chips will tell separately.

The green color in the table represents areas where we see the potential of graphics card is opened or nearly opened. This does not mean that in other cases the picture is unplayable. No, just stated the fact that the graphics card works at its maximum or so.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 в Full HD
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 in Full HD

WQHD would be heavy graphics card. The dependence on frequency and quantity of flows are minimised.

What we have in the end? Many will take the GeForce GTX 1070 games in Full HD resolution. Judge it by the number of comments under the heading “Computer of the month”, and according to the statistics Steam, which eloquently captures the fact: more than one third of gamers use 1080p. For gaming at this resolution will require a Core i5 with frequency for all four cores at least 3.5 GHz. Ideally, of course, you need a “stone” be overclocked to at least 4 GHz. If it is (possible) is not — okay. We buy new games including future-proofed.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 в WQHD
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 in WQHD

Processorswith GTX 1080

The GeForce GTX 1080 poses a Quad core processor more complex puzzle. Full HD threshold increased markedly. To reveal the full potential of the graphics card needed or a Core i5, clocked at 4.5 GHz, or Core i7, but at a rate of 4 GHz. Here you either have to take out a CPU with an unlocked multiplier, or to drive Skylake on the bus.

More fun just “the Witcher”. Sharply raise minimum FPS (up to 100) managed only eight threads and at frequency 5 GHz. Novigrad is finally conquered! As you know, these processors do not exist. Either you have to put quality serviced the cooling system, or to scalp the “rock” or, even better, both together. But all this, again, fits the concept of “perfect.”

For the GeForce GTX 1080 need a Quad to 4-4,5 GHz

By the way, the example of The Witcher 3 shows that Hyper-Threading technology and thus the availability of additional threads really helps in games. But there is the reverse situation, when the application incorrectly distributes the load. As a result, four cores, at times, give more FPS than eight threads.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 в Full HD
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Full HD

Still the GeForce GTX 1080 is the ideal solution for gaming at 1440p. The load on the graphics card increases significantly, and therefore in WQHD (with few exceptions) have sufficient Core i5 @3.5 GHz.

Everything goes to the fact that the next generation of flagship graphics cards from AMD and NVIDIA will no longer make any sense to test in Full HD resolution.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 в WQHD
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 WQHD

But what about Core i3 and AMD FX?

I specifically bring your attention to the Quad-core Intel processors. Marketing? Sold Intel? Judge for yourself: Core i3 architecture Haswell is not pulling any of the designated cards. Yes, the number of frames conditionally playable, the minimum FPS is not sags below 30. But playing with a dual-core chip and GeForce GTX 1080 is not quite comfortable. Notice that in the same GTA V “stone” just do not keep up with the graphics card — texture loaded at a worse time. In the Witcher, and Far Cry 4 was observed to the unpleasant sight of podergivani pictures, although FPS sags uncritically. In the same Full HD to reveal the potential of GeForce GTX 1080 was only in two games. And in Far Cry 4 — at frequencies of 4.5 GHz and 5 GHz. Such Core i3 on sale do not happen. If only buy, for example, Core i3-6100 and to disperse it on the bus before the designated frequency. Of course, you can talk about buying a GTX 1070/1080 in such a system is future-proofed. Besides, WQHD and Ultra HD processorepiemonte effect is markedly reduced. However, for Full HD better way is to get a cheaper graphics card — the result is the same. The essence of the article.

Core i3 new graphics card is not suitable

In General, I have not opened. This topic has been raised in the “Iron experiment”. So I don’t recommend GeForce GTX 1070/1080 to use in systems with processors Core i3. But do not insist.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

Ambiguous situation potential of the new NVIDIA’s happening with OCTA-core processors AMD FX. GeForce GTX 1070 in Full HD OCTA-core chips from AMD in five games tested by me not tell, as do the same Core i5. Let’s compare the FX-8350 (it just works on default 4 GHz) with Quad Haswell at 3.5 GHz. In “the Wild Hunt” Intel is ahead of AMD eight-core model 13 average FPS and the same minimum. Agree, the difference is not critical. But in GTA V the lag is already 25,5 FPS, Far Cry 4 and 33.4 FPS in DOOM WAS 19.8 FPS, Fallout 4 is 21.8 FPS. A lot or a little? In my opinion, well, though in all cases we get a playable image. Therefore, those users who want to update their AMD platform, well need to overclock my FX-8000. In high-effect processorepiemonte markedly reduced, but overclock still not hurt.

If with GeForce GTX 1070 is unable to cope even overclocked FX-8000, then the rest of AMD couldn’t do it even more.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

Finally, there are high-end and very expensive platform Intel LGA-2011-v3. The most popular processor model is shestiyadernik Core i7-5820K. Other chips, including an 8-core and 10-core solutions are exorbitant money. For this platform special options or not. Of course, the GeForce GTX GeForce GTX 1070 and 1080 of the suit. But the same Core i7-5820K is better to podrzavati to 4 GHz.

Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Процессорозависимость NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

Processorswith NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

Suitable processors

Processorswith — a curious thing. Nobody bothers you to buy, say, the GeForce GTX 1080, “DIN” in Full HD resolution with the vertical sync, but clearly realize that the system has a margin of safety in case a new game will become even more demanding. And they will be. With this approach, messing around with overclocking and to understand other wisdom characteristic of enthusiasts, makes no sense. According to testing, the new video card will give playable FPS with almost all processors. However, the article I just focused your attention on finding the potential of graphics card. In my opinion, buy an adapter for $ 700, but in the end to only half of its real capabilities is at least irrational. Therefore, if we are talking about Intel, the computer must have a Quad Core i5. Core i3 potential new products did not disclose. If we are talking about AMD, the GeForce GTX 1070, the best option is the FX-8000, overclocked to 4.5 GHz and above.

In higher resolutions, namely WQHD and Ultra HD so-called “bottle neck” in most cases, will yourself of the graphics card. The same GeForce GTX 1080 is even overkill for 1080p, but is perfect for 1440p.

Overclocking in 2016 — not a luxury. And have not self-indulgence

Let’s see how processorswith impact DirectX 12 because the API is, in theory, contributes to a better optimization of computer games. New API is only implemented in modern games. And while there are more questions than answers.

Железный эксперимент: определяемся с центральными процессорами для NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070/1080

To summarize, here is a compatibility chart GeForce GTX and GeForce GTX 1070 1080 with the still-current models of desktop processors in Full HD resolution. The subscript “OC” means that the chip is a good idea to podrazhat. Entry of type “Core i5-6600 and above” means that will fit Core i5-6600 Core i5-6600K, Core i7-6700 and Core i7-6700K.

Table processorepiemonte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070/1080

 

Line

Examples of models for Full HD

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

Core i5, Core i7, FX-8000/9000

Core i5-6600 and above

Core i5-5675C and Core i7-5775C

Core i5-4590 and above

Core i5-3570K (OC to 4 GHz) and Core i7-3770K (OC to 4 GHz)

Core i5-2500K (OC to 4 GHz) and Core i7-2600K (OC to 4 GHz)

Core i7-6800K and above

Core i7-5820K and higher

Core i7-3930K (OC to 4 GHz) and above

Core i7-4820K (OC to 4 GHz) and above

FX-8000/9000 (OC to 4.5 GHz and above)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

Core i5 and Core i7

Core i5-6600K OC to 4 GHz), Core i7-6700 (OC to 4 GHz) and Core i7-6700K

Core i5-5675C (OC to 4 GHz) and Core i7-5775C (OC to 4 GHz)

Core i5-4670K (OC to 4 GHz), Core i5-4690K (OC to 4 GHz), Core i7-4770K (OC to 4 GHz) and Core i7-4790K

Core i5-3570K (OC to 4.5 GHz) and Core i7-3770K (OC to 4.5 GHz)

Core i5-2500K (OC to 4.5 GHz) and Core i7-2600K (OC to 4.5 GHz)

Core i7-6800K OC to 4 GHz) and above

Core i7-5820K (OC to 4 GHz) and above

Core i7-3930K (OC to 4.5 GHz) and above

Core i7-4820K (OC to 4.5 GHz) and above


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